This is all of reality, turned inside out. The infinity of space that was inside the universe now instead extends outside of it, where there is more space for it to expand into. Infinitely more. This the the hugest thing, guys. Even though it is theoretical only, and not possible to do.
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This is pretty well done:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV6aQbnHSRo
Wow. She's kinda cute.
I can't clean up your comments, Heeero.
Don't look at the boobs! Look at the physics! It's sexier!
...I promise!
You know, its stuff like this that turns me off of physics.
Whenever someone starts going off on how the universe is really bigger and more complex than we previously imagined, This little dude in my brain starts laughing, sighing, and punching the wall simultaneously.
Look at the physics? I might as well be looking at the boobies.
This video explained nothing to me.
"Oh my, there may have been universes that expanded and collapsed previous to the universe we currently reside in and know less than one percent about!"
I don't care.
I love learning about the nature of the universe, but I don't need to know why or what the big bang was.
That path leads to silliness.
I thought these posts left by readers were pretty awesome though.
"You obviously don't know what you're talking about. The concept of GOD goes against science in pretty much every possible way. There's absolutely no way, SCIENTIFICALLY, that God can exist.
(He does exist though, and he's freaking awesome)"
-And-
"God Does Exist, He has a BIG ASS HAMMER and his dad has an eyepatch and two ravens. His brothers kind of a dick though, but i think he's just misunderstood and acting out..."
Whoa. I imagine Fugu's going to want to field this one, so I'll just mention that the related movies off of that clip signify either a weird relationship algorithm, or a a deeply retarded species.
Fuuuuuck i don't want Fugu to "field" this one. It will be a fucking waste of his time. Nothing needs to be explained to me. i putting the understanding of the big bang on the same priority level as the snorks theme song.
I PUTTING! I ARE! NO STOP I!!!
This is going to be a bloodbath.
Oh dear.
Looks like you fielded that one just fine, Pony.
If Panic is happy wondering about the nature of the universe in his own way and thinks the rest of us are silly, that's cool.
But just one question, Panic--Seriously, how is this any sillier than your weekly questions, or the scifi or fantasy that you read? It seems like your statement could apply pretty clearly to all that, too.
You think my weekly questions are in any way to be taken as serious? I consider this to be just as silly as my weekly questions.
Look, this is what I'm trying to say, and I guess I'm not being clear enough. Here's the scenario I play out in my head.
Lets pretend a group of peaceful alien squid monkeys arrive on Earth.
Do they say;
"Hey, nice work with the understanding of the Big Bang, and your work on dark matter is really refreshing! We never thought of it that way! Here's a warp gate! Enjoy!"
Or do they say;
"What the fuck dudes? Why aren't you fixing your environment? Why aren't you taking care of your people? Why are you all still fighting about religion versus science? No gay marriage? Seriously? What about all this war and poverty stuff? No warp gate for you!"
Or Even;
"Why haven't you catalogued all the asteroids that have the most potential to hit your planet? You guys are suicidal! No warp gate for you!"
Or;
Do they turn out to be mean squid monkeys, and all the time we spent theorizing about universes collapsing into new universes we should have either been building those near earth object destroying weapon arrays?
Ah! Clearer. Weird! But clearer.
FYI--Squid monkey syphilis is much more likely to kill you than asteroid impacts.
PLZ for to drawr squid monkeys? okthx!
I knew you'd want some squid monkey drawings as soon as I typed it.
I'll put them frolicking amongst the ghost corpses.
I love this thread, and lolerskated at Panic a lot.
Is that what that was? Aw dang, I... that squid monkey told me she was over 18, I swear!
NO WARPGATE FOR HEEERO!
Or what if they say: "Why are the dudes best suited to understanding the very nature of the universe working on the politics of marriage equality? That's pretty stupid, dudes. Here's a warp gate anyway OH NO WAIT OH SNAP TOO BAD SORRY NO WARP GATE TOO BAD!!"
Just to be clear, I'm a huge proponent of marriage equality. It just seems to me that these two pursuits require different skill sets, and can be worked toward simultaneously via division of labor.
Hey...Hey....Hey! HEY!!! I made a blanket statement in an attempt to illustrate my point, Pony. Don't start this up again for semantics. I just feel that there's plenty to deal with in the here and now.
Like art!
*rolls for saving throw and ducks*
Semantics? I'm not sure I understand your protest there.
I'm just saying that suggesting a physicist start working on social issues, or making art, for that matter; is a bit of a strange request. Being an artist, I'm sure you've encountered the inverse argument, and I can't imagine it felt like a reasonable suggestion to you.
Still, my only real problem with your argument is your assumption that the Alien Squid Monkeys share your opinion of the universe's origin as inherently unworthwhile to ponder. Surely the way the universe works has at least a little to do with how it began. To understand something's origin is to better understand its nature. Would a species so uncurious about the nature of the universe ever develop warp gates, distorting and folding the very fabric of space-time? I think NOT!!
Furthermore, why not develop a good understanding of the universe and develop our OWN warp gates, instead of bowing and scraping to satisfy the Alien Squid Monkeys you're so eager to please?
And finally, why do we even need warp gates, when there are so many serious problems right here on Earth?
Your ending sentence is sort of exactly what I was trying to say. I don't know why we need warpgates, nor do I quite understand why we need Hadron Colliders.
HHHH.
I'm not asking for a physicist to deal with social problems. I am maybe asking that we rein it in a bit. Spend more time dealing with the here and now. I have no problem with our developing a good understanding of the universe. None at all. Do we have a good understanding of the universe? This universe? Do we even know what's going on outside of our galaxy? I think we as a species have this habit of learning a little bit, then trying to make quantum jumps from the little bit that we learn. Probably has something to do with our ridiculously short lifespans. Look at everything that has taken place in the last century. That's quite a chunk of information that the human race has suddenly acquired, and yet socially we still deal with eachother with only the gossamer thin veil of understanding. Technology has definitely aided us in our intercultural understanding, but I feel personally that we have a great long way to go before we start opening doors to things that we as a people may not be ready to deal with.
I think the problem may lie in the notion that the actual tasks of building societal growth, and understanding the needs and upkeep for our world are just not quite as thrilling as figuring out how the universe came to be.
District 9 comes to mind at this point in my thoughts.
I don't think I'm making myself clear. Maybe I'm still trying to process my issues with internet etiquette.
you are right, Pone. I don't know what Squidmonkeys think. Squidmonkeys may see our understanding of the universe's origin as the true sign of our "growing up". In that same context, I don't think it is necessarily unreasonable to ask a physicist to solve a social problem. They might see social situations from a perspective that social workers may not have previously envisioned. It could work. I have always rooted for the jack-of-trades. They are usually the characters I like best in computer games.
So is it just a question of degree, or level of abstraction?
Our species is notorious for reaching beyond its grasp; for wanting things we haven't seen. We express this with our technology, mostly--but I get the sense that you aren't against creating crops that can feed everyone, or developing philosophies that keep our reproduction rates rational. These are pretty big leaps forward, but are you saying that you don't see the immediate benefit from exploring the origins of the universe?
Or is this some Pre-Crisis Oan thing?
I was thinking for a while that we're wasting a lot of money on NASA and more abstract research when there's so much crap we need to take care of here first. This was hard for me to swallow since I love all that theoretical shit, but it made sense.
Graphs like this however, pretty much show that the amount of resources those guys use is tiny. Also, a few inventions from NASA pretty much revolutionized medicine and other things we rely on, and shrugging those guys off might be like assuming there's nothing good coming out of the Amazon.
And yeah, we don't know much about what's outside our galaxy. What we do know gets fucking weirder every year, which is why I love this shit so much and why we should pay them more! Maybe it's a PR/media problem. I don't think those quantum jumps between discoveries are as big as you think. The problem is that 99% of everything those guys do IS REALLY BORING, and we don't hear about it until that last equation tells them that there's some new form of energy that's making the universe expand for no good reason! WTF is that about??? I want to know!!!
Note: I wanted/still want to be a cosmologist when I grow up, and specifically enjoy thinking about the origins of the big bang, and have books on said subject.
Note: The Hadron Collider FUCKING ROCKS NADS AND I LOVE IT.
It's not like I can do much to change they way the human species does the shit it does, I guess I'm just voicing my opinion that maybe it could work on some quantum leaps in the social structure.
I was thinking about this earlier, and one of the more interesting byproducts of science is the intarweb. This worldwide information retrieval and intercultural communication device. Possibly one of the greatest tools/weapons mankind has ever created, and we use this thing for posting Britney Spears videos and commenting about it.
Hey I'm all for spending money on science. I'm all for leaps and bounds. I'd just like some balance. I know it just doesn't work that way, but I'm saying I'd like some.
Perhaps its that I'm seeing the discoveries science is making in relation to the progress of the human as a social "civilized" animal, and that's what concerns me.
And I do think these quantum leaps in science for the past century are as big as I think. I do!
We did a lot in the last 100+ years for technology and science. It's just that we've become used to having these things in our lives quickly as well. Humans adapt to change pretty quickly, but adaptation to technology and social growth can be mutually exclusive.
I think the Hadron Collider is cool. I just don't necessarily think it was the best thing that could have been done with the money, which if I recall was a hefty chunk of change. I really hope it summons a fire breathing dragon!
I think the concept and application of multiculturalism is a pretty mighty social advancement brought about almost entirely by communication and transportation technology.
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