Have we really made it this far? At this, our 666th post, let's take a moment to thank the fellow who made it all possible--all the free will, all the thinking, all the ideas, all the creativity, all the deviance and defiance and independence--the First Fallen, the Star of the Morning, ladies and gentlemen, the Devil himself; the Angel Lucifer! In any other book, he'd have been the good guy!
Saturday, May 2, 2009
Post #666
Have we really made it this far? At this, our 666th post, let's take a moment to thank the fellow who made it all possible--all the free will, all the thinking, all the ideas, all the creativity, all the deviance and defiance and independence--the First Fallen, the Star of the Morning, ladies and gentlemen, the Devil himself; the Angel Lucifer! In any other book, he'd have been the good guy!
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1440x900, plz!
He's a good guy in my book. He questions authority. He enacts change. He alters the status quo. He encourages variety in life. He supports transgender rights!
He's pretty.
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I say fuck 'em. The angst pendulum is midswing between 2000's "the devil's pretty sweet; embrace reckless abandon" and 90's "hedonism's for hippies; embrace the right". I'm trying to be ahead of the curve.
Litcube, I think we're not talking about the Christian scapegoat for all that's wrong with the world; the steeple-fingered, cackling, goat-footed Old Summer Sausage devil of the big-tented old-time revival churches and chick tracts. I think we're talking about the Promethean hero of the actual Bible, who says no to a celestial dictatorship, creates a world of choice, and and elevates man to a greater level of moral responsibility.
So what do you say? Teww the Deviw you wuv him! Teww the Deviw you WUV HIM! SAY IT OUT WOUD!
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I don't know, dude. I feel really compelled to jump on board with everyone, I do. I like you guys, and want to support you, and all that, it's just that I know if I jump on your wagon, I'll loose 9834xp, which is basically 200 or so from reaching 12. It was a rough quarter, and I'm expecting the next one to be just as slow, so getting that back is going to take a while. In short, it's not personal, it's business. I can't do Satan because of business. Satan is bad business, guys.
That is a lot of xp. I don't think any of us can begrudge you the need to level up.
You weren't kidding about being Lawful Good, though. All right.
i'm not sure how much of that overthrowing dictatorship angle to satan's rebellion is in the bible, and how much comes from paradise lost. but in the latter, at least, satan is something of a douche. sure, it's easy to write a paper on how he's the classic anti-authoritarian hero, but a close reading of the text reveals god's dictatorship to be a rather soft one. for example, satan doesn't even have to stay in hell--fucker's free to fly out of there, fuck eve, fly up to heaven to have a summit with god, etc. satan's like a whiney little holden caulfield bitch. not that god's so great either, the abstracted cunt. fuck em both.
As far as character goes, the big magic-users; the god and the devil, are all over the place in the bible. The loving deity who Jor-El's his son to Planet Earth is certainly not the same dude who makes a bet with Satan to see if they can get Job to freak out. Reasonable, as the books of the bible are often adapted stories about completely different gods.
I'm sure my ideas about the character come from a lot of different places, including the knowledge of the events of Paradise Lost (I haven't read it) and other literary interpretations, including the Lucifer comic book, as well as the self-inconsistent bible. To be perfectly honest, I think I have picked and chosen the bits that I want to be true in order to form an agreeable narrative, something a true Christian would never do.
Still, if you look a straight reading of Genesis 3, what the serpent (generally thought of as the Lucifer in disguise) brings to Eve and Adam is self-awareness, knowledge of good and evil (and thus the ability--and therefore responsibility--to choose between the two) and possibly the ability to sew.
Meanwhile, by page 4 of Genesis, god had cursed three quarters of humanity, in super-mean and super-creative and super-petty ways.
I'm just saying, if I had to pick out the good guy there, I'm not sure the one that wanted humanity to remain mindless dolls would be the one in the cape.
Genesis, what's that?
"Genesis"? Like in Star Trek III? (ducks flying offal)
On another unrelated side note--has anyone read "Towing Jehovah"? Its about trying to ditch god's corpse.
I think reading Towing Jehovah came at a pivotal point during my transformation into a radical atheist. It might have had something to do with the warm and fuzzy image of huge holes getting blown out of God's bloated corpse as it drifted around the Atlantic.
What was the thing where they somehow get a tissue sample of god or an angel or something and they try to clone it and every clone they make comes out balls out homicidal crazy?
Did I dream that?
That sounds like a misremembered Preacher story.
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