Tuesday, June 3, 2008

Win!

11 comments:

Fugu said...

I LOL'd--nice, dude.
Here's to not having an Obama/Clinton ticket.

Mr. Pony said...

She's done some strange things in this campaign, but this "graciously pretending to win" thing is really the great big poop-cherry on top. I felt genuinely sorry for her supporters there, several times during the speech. Doesn't she get how mean this is? Is she trying to prove that this "hope" is a bad thing, after all?

On the other hand, I guess crafting the perfect message to send out to her supporters at this moment in the campaign can't be easy, and shouldn't be rushed. Still, she's coming off as kind of a dick!

Mr. Pony said...

I'm going to flip-flop on this one. This might be the right thing to do, if she's trying to get her supporters behind Obama. The fact that it's also the opening move of an insane, hair-on-fire cannonball onto a crowded gasoline dance floor is beside the point, and for the moment, irrelevant.

Fugu said...

"'Her public defiance reflected a shift in the balance of power that came with Obama's victory. Now that he had won the race, he would need to woo Clinton if he wanted to prevail in November... For a candidate who had just lost the nomination, she seemed very much in charge."

I dunno, dude. She's a very clever, manipulative woman, and I think she calculated this all out like 14 moves ago and has the whole timeline mapped out on a wall somewhere written in blood. Move #1436: Obama's food taster has tragic accident having a bowel movement. #1443: Presidency is MINE.

Seriously though, if she's rallying any of her supporters behind Obama it's for her next big move, which of course is strongly suggesting to the media that she's the only thing to make this the "golden ticket". If he says yes, it will look like Obama agrees to have Clinton as his running mate by her gracious offer, not his. She'll come out looking stronger than he does and she knows it. I'm sure she's already got that victory speech written.

Fugu said...

This guy here is dead on, me thinks.

Mr. Pony said...

Well, I guess that's the very reason Obama can't take her up on this VP thing. And Clinton has to see that. She would have to spend the next couple of days overtly showing him that he can't win without her. She would need to show that she can order everyone who voted for her to stay home, or go out and vote for McCain.

And I have to believe that the majority of her supporters who understand and believe in her message also understand that this election isn't just about the candidates. (I mean, there's so much more at stake. This decade has been super-embarrassing so far!) Clinton's supporters just need time to get used to the idea of following another leader with different methods to extremely similar goals.

So this is my interpretation of Senator Clinton's delayed concession speech. For the rest of America, it's weird and annoying, but for her loyal base, it's decompression. Which some of them clearly need.

(Boy, if only Hillary Clinton hadn't gone so negative! This sure would be a lot easier!)

Fugu said...

Honestly I don't know much about a lot of those guys plus Kucinich really didn't have a chance, but as far as platforms go, it was probably him.

Mr. Pony said...

Kucinich's platform is fabulously civilized. I have a lot of respect for Joe Biden's positions, style, and willingness to say complicated things out loud. I'm actually surprised he didn't go farther in the race.

Anonymous said...

The NDP don't have a chance.

Fugu said...

Probably this?

odori said...

A little belatedly, let me say I'm so incredibly relieved by this result.

I really thought Hillary was going to come up with some way _ using Florida, Michigan, even crazier racist attacks, whatever _ to trick the Democratic party into picking her.

Hooray! Now if only Obama can pick someone else for VP without causing her supporters to implode, accuse him of sexism, and march on Denver... I'm still nervous...